NEWS UPDATE 23RD OCT 2009:
Informed by Simon Lee as follows >
Report about the petition will be released into the public domain next week & will be discussed at the next public meeting to be held by the Committee on Monday 9th Nov 7pm at the Hampstead Heath Education Centre ( by the Lido )
AND!
The first DECISION about my petition will be made by the Committee to be held at a public Meeting City Of London Guildhall Monday at 1.45pm
SUPPORTERS: PLEASE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ATTEND!! THE VISUAL PRESCENCE WILL BE CRUCIAL - ALTHOUGH THEW PUPLIC CANT SPEAK - IT WILL SEND A STRONG MESSAGE - I INTEND TO HAVE PRESS COVERAGE OF THIS ALL IMPORTANT MEETING - THE ROAD TO GET THIS FAR HAS BEEN QUITE A STRUGGLE - SO I DON'T WANT ALL MY HERCULEAN EFFORTS TO GO IN VAIN!

NEWS UPDATE 8TH OCTOBER: No idea about this one I actually handed the petition over in June!

> Petition delivered for male nudity on Heath
editorial@hamhigh.co.uk
08 October 2009

NUDE male sunbathing on Hampstead Heath could be a lot more noticeable if the City of London Corporation gives in to a petition handed in this week.

More than a thousand people have signed the demand to increase the space allocated for naked men to be more than doubled from 97sq metres to 207.5 sq m.

The petition says: "This change will more accurately reflect the existing and potential demand for this facility."

The demands were noted at the Hampstead Heath Management Committee meeting on Tuesday (October 6) and are currently being considered.

NEWS UPDATE 2ND JULY 2009:

Camden New Journal - LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
Published: 2 July 2009

Association represents every swimmer

• I AM a great admirer of Peter Tatchell. (Drop the gay hang-up about nudism: let’s live and let live, June 25)
I admire his support for the cause of individual liberty; his fight for the civil rights of gay people against unfair treatment and persecution.
I particularly admire the way he puts himself in harm’s way for that cause, fearlessly enduring physical assault by the likes of Mugabe’s bodyguard and the Moscow police. I have no hesitation in designating him as a hero of our times.
I am not, as he wrongly concludes, campaigning against naked sunbathing or gay men.
I am pleading the cause of swimmers and swimming at the Highgate Pond against an outrageous – I hope he does not mind my borrowing the word – demand which unreasonably, unfairly and disproportionately requires that swimming after more than 100 years at Highgate, becomes an activity significantly subordinate to nude sunbathing, for which, Michael Peacock (Nudists go stark raving mad over their lack of space at Men’s Pond, June 4) audaciously demands exclusive use of more than three quarters of the available changing area; a proposal unreasonably described as “modest”.
Nor was my letter (Swimming is healthier than baking in the sun, June 11) a value judgment on sexual orientation or sexual activity but manifestly an argument about economics and proportion.
Substitute the words “Morris dancers” for the word “gay” in my analysis and you see the clear sexual neutrality of my argument.
For example, if the exclusive nude sunbathing area of the Highgate Pond was instead exclusively used by Morris dancers and it was promoted in the national and international Morris dancing media as a Morris dancing meeting place, bringing more Morris dancers than the capacity for them, you would have the same economic outcome; an oversupply of Morris dancers in relation to the space available.
If those Morris dancers then unreasonably, unfairly and inappropriately, disproportionately demanded that swimmers, runners, floor gymnasts and aging shuttlecock players be displaced, we would come to the same outrageous outcome.
“Morris dancer” is mentioned six times not in prejudice – there obviously is none – but because it is necessary to the analysis of an economic problem.
The swimming ponds of Hampstead Heath are indeed a slice and cross-section of London life as Mr Tatchell reminds us.
The United Swimmers Association reflects that diversity by representing every swimmer regardless of creed, colour, religion, occupation and sexual identity – if anyone ever notices?
Indeed, one of its three founders was incidentally and immaterially gay. The problem is that Mr Peacock’s exclusive club does not reflect that diversity.
In my experience, no swimmer is ever uncivil towards or intolerant of another simply because he happens to be gay; nor should they be. Such conduct would be impolite, indefensible and something I would condemn utterly.
I am delighted to assure Mr Tatchell that a cross-section of people still do mix amicably every day as they change in the swimmers’ compound; just as they have always done and just as they do rubbing shoulders on the streets of London.
Only Mr Peacock’s unreasonable proposals are a threat to that.
The implication that swimmers who happen to be gay are not welcomed by other swimmers, is contrary to all truth and observation.
The swimming compound is and has been for more than 100 years, by purpose and design, predominantly to serve healthy exercise and swimming, not nude sunbathing.
The demand to have an “all over” sun tan (as opposed to a 90 per cent or so, togs on, version) strikes me as a wanton misallocation of a scarce resource – the swimming pond – and truly superficial in contrast to the healthy benefits of a swim for 20 or 30 minutes a day with the birds and fish, in the clear waters of Highgate Pond.
That is genuine naturism.
Robert Sutherland Smith
Chairman United Swimmers Association of Hampstead Heath

Space is inadequate

• I HAD regularly used the Men’s Pond for some time before the intrusive barrier that is the source of contention was installed and had never seen anything that justified the measure taken.
Since then either side of the divide has continued to be used for both swimming and sunbathing, though one side is much the smaller and the fencing takes up a lot valuable space in an area that was already inadequate for users’ needs.
Much of the area adjoining the enclosure is at present just overgrown scrubland.
It remains the reality that the present area being too small to satisfy the demands being made upon it is the real problem, something that seems to be getting lost sight of in the present contention, and were the barrier to be removed, and grassing to replace the bare concrete, and the whole facility expanded, this would, I think, more satisfactorily address the needs of all users.
John McPartlin
Address supplied


NEWS UPDATE 29TH JUNE 2009:
Hampstead Heath Management Consultative Committee meeting 7pm > Simon Lee of the Open Spaces Department read out the petition - noted for the minutes - no discussion.

NEWS UPDATE 25TH JUNE 2009: Camden New Journal - LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
Published: 25 June 2009

Drop the gay hang-up about nudism: let's live and let live

Robert Sutherland Smith defends the confinement of nude sunbathers to
a small, cramped enclosure within the changing area at the men’s pond
on Hampstead Heath (letters, 11 June).

He repeatedly makes a big issue of the fact that many gay men swim and
sunbathe there. What’s has people’s sexuality got to do with it? Why
keep stressing gay, gay, gay?

Mr Smith’s professed concern about the health dangers of sunbathing
are touching but patronising. I notice that he is not campaigning for
a nationwide ban on sunbathing. Surely it is up to individuals to make
their own risk assessment and either limit their sun exposure or use
sun-block?

Let’s please go back to square one. Until the early 1990s, the whole
changing area was happily used as a combined nude and clothed
sunbathing area by people of all sexualities. It worked then, why not
now?

In those happier days, when I lived nearby, I was a frequent attendee.
Gay men, orthodox Jews and straight body builders all mixed amicably
together – with the exception of a tiny handful of illiberal straight
men, some of whom seemed determined to force out gay men. Since nude
sunbathing was particularly popular among the gays, they thought they
could achieve this goal by banning naked sunbathing.

They pressured the Heath authorities to hold a consultation exercise.
The results were overwhelmingly in favour of allowing nudism. Despite
this result, Heath officials responded by overriding the democratic
vote and banning nude sunbathing in nearly two-thirds of the changing
area. People without clothes were confined to the present small,
fenced -off enclosure within the changing area. A vociferous, mostly
homophobic, minority was allowed to dictate to the majority. And so it
has remained ever since.

Why can’t we get back the old days, when the whole men’s changing area
was clothing optional? Why can’t gay, straight, bisexual and celibate
men - with and without swimsuits - all share the men’s pond in a
spirit of live and let live?

Yours sincerely,

Peter Tatchell
OutRage!
PO Box 17816
London SW14 8WT

NEWS UPDATE 18TH JUNE 09: Camden New Journal - LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
Published: 18 June 2009

ROBERT Sutherland Smith of the United Swimmers Association does seem to have got his proverbial knickers in a twist about Michael Peacock’s modest proposals to increase the area at the men’s pond where others may divest themselves of theirs (Swimming is healthier than baking in the sun, June 11).
In his missive he uses the word “gay” no less than six times; it’s as if the partition represents a kind of sexual orientation apartheid.
As a regular visitor, I concede that the majority on that side “will never marry” but that’s not the case entirely.
I felt the undertone of the letter was quite pejorative.
Name and address supplied



NEWS UPDATE 11TH JUNE 09: Camden New Journal - LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
Published: 11 June 2009

Swimming is healthier than baking in the sun

• MAY I add an observation or two to Dan Carrier’s article (Nudists go stark raving mad over their lack of space at men’s pond, June 4)?
The shortage of laying out space on the concrete slab in the flesh-frying naked men’s section of the Highgate pond changing compound does not arise from its size but from insatiable excessive demand.
As I understand, Michael Peacock wishes to expand the area given over to gay nude sunbathing, in part, by further reducing the area where everyone else changes to go swimming, running, take exercise or, in some instances, actually to sunbathe in swimming shorts. The remaining area for those of the general population seeking physical recreation and relaxation has already been significantly reduced by the creation of an area for exclusive use by naked prone and supine sunbathers. I understand that Mr Peacock proposes that the minority club he represents should now have more space than majority users have.
For a few weeks in the height of summer the now nude sunbathing area is full of tourists brought to the Highgate swimming and bathing pond, I understand, by its national and international promotion in the gay media as a gay meeting place. To judge by the overflow onto the grassy “gay lawn” area outside, and its attraction as an internationally advertised eighth wonder of the world, there is nothing the City Corporation can realistically do to meet this pent-up, promotion-led growth in demand.
I fear Mr Peacock’s proposals are economically flawed. There would not be enough space to meet the demand from gay naked sunbathers, even if the swimmers, runners and others were driven out entirely. That community I might add, includes the short, the tall, the old the young, gay and straight. In short, a cross-section of all of us.
Apart from being economically unviable, Mr Peacock’s ambition is also wrong in fundamental principle. The changing area only exists because it serves, that rarest of things, the Highgate swimming and bathing pond next to it.
Swimming gave rise to and need for the changing area now claimed by Mr Peacock.
It has existed primarily and unquestionably for swimming and swimmers for more than 100 years. Moreover, whereas swimming is healthy exercise, laying sardine-like on concrete, for hours on end, beneath a burning sun, whatever its charms, is dangerous.
Mr Peacock is in effect asking the City Corporation to associate itself with a cause which is contrary to all medical advice and gives rise to the greater social cost of health care. Swimmers generally come and go in half an hour. Mr Peacock’s sunbathers are there much of the day (a major contribution to the overcrowding) along with their cars that help create total day-long congestion and mayhem in Millfield Lane on the best summer days.
Robert Sutherland Smith
Chairman United Swimmers Association of Hampstead Heath


Send your letters to: The Letters Editor, Camden New Journal, 40 Camden Road, London, NW1 9DR or email to letters@thecnj.co.uk. The deadline for letters is midday Tuesday. The editor regrets that anonymous letters cannot be published, although names and addresses can be withheld. Please include a full name, postal address and telephone number. Letters may be edited for reasons of space.

NEWS UPDATE 5TH JUNE 09: Ham & High - by Katie Davies - front page - published 4th JUNE

Celebrities back plans to expand naturism on Hampstead Heath

HUNDREDS of campaigners including Julian Clary and human rights protestor Peter Tatchell are backing a scheme to increase the area for nude male sunbathing on Hampstead Heath.

A petition with more than 1,000 signatures will be presented to the new Chairman of the Heath today (Thursday) calling for greater space for the naturists, expanding the small concrete plot they currently use next to the changing room at the men's swimming pond.

The campaign appeared in its early days on the letters pages of the Ham&High last May, when naturist Michael Peacock complained about the lack of space.

Now, a year on, he is hoping he has enough public and celebrity support to free the nudists.

The 50-year-old bather said: "Last year the Ham&High published my letter and a cartoon on the subject and it's all kicked off from there. I, like many others, sent off my comments to the City of London Corporation but they were totally ignored. I decided to try to get something done and set up a petition."

A total of 1,061 people are now backing his bid, which will be presented to the new chairman of the Heath Management Committee, Michael Welbank, at the bathing enclosure this morning.

"I think we are being fair and reasonable but we want the majority of the changing room area moved over for nude sunbathing," Mr Peacock continued.

"I want this to lead to a debate about why there aren't more naturist spaces in the UK. On a hot day there is only space for 28 guys and a lot of men are unable to use it.

"I hope the Corporation will take this debate seriously and expand the space. They could do so much to improve that facility - ideally, one day we'd like the partition removed completely."

But the move is unlikely to go unopposed and looks set to pit the nudists against conservationists and more traditional swimmers who want visitors to keep covered up.

Chairman of the Heath and Hampstead Society Tony Hillier said: "I think we would oppose this. No one wants to see nude men out on the Heath and extending the enclosure would be unacceptable. That is building on the Heath and we don't approve of that."

Chairman of the Heath's United Swimmers Association, Robert Sutherland Smith, says the enclosure is often used by gay men as a meeting place and the petition has nothing to do with a debate on naturism.

"The ponds are for swimming and the changing area is for people to change to go swimming - sunbathing is a secondary function," he said. "It is for men to meet other men and it is advertised like that and that is why people are attracted to it.

"We are all grown up and people have different preferences but swimming at the ponds takes priority. This is not naturism - there is no nature around or grass between their toes - they just lie on a concrete floor cooking.


NEWS UPDATE 5TH JUNE 09: Camden New Journal
Camden News - by DAN CARRIER
Published: 4 June 2009

Nudists go stark raving mad over their lack of space at Men’s Pond

Tempers flare in soaring temperatures as long-running debate makes another mighty splash

TRUNKS ON or trunks off? That is the question gripping visitors to the Men’s Pond this week.
As the summer temperatures soar and the pond attracts bumper crowds, a long-running argument over the amount of space given over to naked sunbathing has erupted again.
The campaign for more space, run by naturist Michael Peacock and backed by comedian Julian Clary and civil rights activist Peter Tatchell, has garnered more than 1,000 signatures.
Mr Peacock will be handing it over today (Thursday) to Michael Wellbank, the new chairman of the Heath.
The Men’s Pond boasts a simple changing compound and currently there is a section screened off where men can be naked. The other section has a strict “costumes on” rule.
But Mr Peacock believes the set-up is fundamentally unfair.
He said that he was moved to collect the signatures after seeing how many naked men were being crammed into the nude section.
He said: “I love the place – it is wonderful. But the frustration is when the partition went up, it was ill-conceived. It reduced in one fell swoop the area for naked sunbathing by two-thirds and it gets extremely crowded.
“I have seen people turn away in frustration because there are so many people in there. We need more space. In Germany public parks have a naturist area, yet this small patch of concrete is the only place in the whole of London where you can be naked.
“It is simply not big enough.”
The screen was first put up in the 1990s. A barrister who swam regularly at the pond complained he was uncomfortable taking his young son because of people sunbathing in the nude. He threatened to take legal action unless Heath managers the City of London acted – and their response was to put up a modesty screen to spare the blushes of those who simply came to the ponds for a swim, rather than to lounge around naked.
But not everyone believes any change is necessary.
Chris Rocco of the Highgate Lifebouys swimming club based at the pond said he and his members were against increasing the naked space.
He said: “We are all definitely against it. Already half the area is for nude sunbathing. You get dads up there with their kids. I am personally used to seeing people naked but others are not.
“It works at the moment – if they want to sunbathe naked, they can be on one side, while the rest of us can be on the other.”
But Mr Peacock says expanding the naked area could be the catalyst for a renovation plan for the whole compound.
He added: “At the Ladies Pond they have a very nice grass bank over-looking the pond. Here we have a concrete and metal box which is like a microwave.
“It would be nice to have a view made over the ponds, with a few shrubs to stop the binocular brigade having a peek.”
A spokeswoman from the City of London Corporation said: “The petition will have to go through the due consultation process and will be considered by the Consultative Committee and then the Management Committee before a decision can be made.
“As always on the Heath, different needs and interests need to be considered in the appropriate way before a decision is made.”

NEWS UPDATE 4TH JUNE 09: 11am Handed over my 1061 signature petition to Michael Wellbank recently appointed Chairman of the Heath at the Ponds - with press coverage by the Ham & High > front page! "Heath needs more naked space" 4/6 - Camden New Journal > "Nudists go stark raving mad over their lack of space at Men's Pond" p5 & The Pink Paper 11/6

NEWS UPDATE 3RD JUNE 09: Have just spent ages collating messages of support - it just goes to show that this lump of concrete surrounded by sheets of metal - is not just used by the residents of London! >

179 Michael Hall London May 08, 2009
I support this petition to challenge the absurd prudishness demonstrated by small area allocated previously. The numbers of men wanting to bath naked must be taken seriously by the London Corporation

174 Martin R-Dowland Camberley Surrey May 07, 2009
This is a modest proposal to accomodate the many sectors of the using public who wish to use this facility but are prevented from doing so by the lack of space.
Living in a country which advocates freedom of choice where no harm is done to others, we require a non-sexual, therefore single sex facility for comfort, health and life quality issues.
The facility will appeal to team sport practitioners, tourists, various age groups and those wishing to recover from city stress through bathing.

172 Jose Korn London May 07, 2009
Nude sunbathing and swimming is seriously lacking in and around London. Highgate ponds nude area is very highly used and needs to be bigger and would do with a swimming area too.

159 Marko Matysik London Chelsea May 05, 2009
men and women should be able to wear or not wear what they like!

151 Adolfo Melendez Malaga Spain Apr 21, 2009
any way you go into a nudist beach everywere, you find dressed people, so if you increse all the space to nude sunbathing ,everybody is free to be as they want in the complete sunbathing area.

150 Jim Vail Ontario Canada Apr 09, 2009
Naturist facilities are a significant factor in my decision making when it comes to choosing a tourism destination. I would be more inclined to visit often if the facilities were more attractive !

147 Dr.Robin Thorne Palm Springs California USA Mar 16, 2009
I have used the facility on many trips to London and the naturist or nude side is often overcrowded while the clothed area remains very sparsely attended.
I strongly support the more logical allocation of space called for in this petition.

145 Franck Danel London Chelsea Feb 11, 2009
allez faites un effort a poil tout simplement

142 Andrew Ford Swanage Dorset Jan 25, 2009
I am a naturist and wish this London facility to be increased in size

133 Adriano de Sousa Leyton London Dec 22, 2008
I'll take my clothes off to that

132 Marko Matysik London Chelsea Dec 22, 2008
let it all hang out! it's only natural.

131 Fredrik Persson London Dec 21, 2008
We're moving into 2009 but not 2009 BC! Extend the Men's Pond naturist enclave, and why not put in wooden decking! Cheers

130 David Pledge Ashtead Surrey Dec 18, 2008
This is the only public naturist facility in the whole of London. It should be enlarged, not reduced! Naturists are a legitimate minority group under Article 14 of the 1998 Human Right Act and it is illegal to discriminate against them. This is a constitutional act and overrides all other legislation on naturism.

Naturism and naturists are also protected by Articles 9, 10 and 11 of the 1998 HRA.

123 Rev Steven Brown Stoke Newington London Dec 18, 2008
This makes perfect sense.

120 Daniel Lismore London Dec 18, 2008
i work in the fashion industry & promote clothes but we are all naked underneath, naturism should be accepted

118 NORMAN HART MANCHESTER Dec 17, 2008
LETS GET INTO THE 21st CENTURY AND LEAVE 19TH CENTURY VICTORIAN VALUES IN THE PAST WHERE THEY BELONG.

115 Michael Collier Bourne Lincolnshire Dec 17, 2008
I lived in E17 for 14yrs and the ponds nudist area was packed like sardines in the summer months..It does need to be made bigger plus all London boroughs should provide nudist areas.. It would be nice if all towns and cities across the UK also did the same.

111 Damon Kendrick East Perth Western Australia Dec 16, 2008
Naturism is healthy

109 Dr Jeremy McMullin Edinburgh Midlothian Dec 16, 2008
I am a frequent user of the men's pond and nude sunbathing enclosure at the Heath, and have been for 10 years now. I believe that naturism should receive more support from city authorities. Given the massive amount of space dedicated at the heath for textile use. it seems a small gesture to increase the nude sunbathing area a the Heath to include the entire changing room area. I also believe that nude swimming should be allowed at the pond.

104 John Gunner St Albans Herts Dec 01, 2008
It is important to defend any remaining rights and this is one of them. It cannot be too much to ask for this one tiny freedom in the capital of the country of tolerance.

98 Danny Morris Rochester Kent Nov 07, 2008
I Danny Morris the undersigned .A little more space is not unreasonable.

92 Mark Freeman Hawthorn County Durham Oct 15, 2008
I entirely agree. Although I live in the North East, I know the Ponds well as have relatives in London and I also know how limited the opportunities are for naked sunbathing in the UK. We need more spaces like this!

91 C. J. O'Brien ILFORD Essex Oct 14, 2008
I fully support the petition to expand the nude sunbathing area and I hope you will enlarge it.

90 Guy Prouny Paris France Oct 06, 2008
London is one of the few places in Europe where nude recreation is not available. In the 21st century, this should change.

88 Andrew Wilson London Sep 27, 2008
In my experience there are more men who want to be nude at the ponds, than men who want to wear costumes. Therfore this change makes sense and is only fair. The other point I would like to make is that the original change came about for homophobic and puritanical reasons. A society that prides itself on diversity should not tolerate this kind of prejudice.

85 Lionel Collier Toronto Ontario Canada Sep 21, 2008
Please improve the men's facilities at Hampstead Heath Thanks

84 David Reeds Streatham London Sep 21, 2008
I've never used this facility, but I might one day, and I feel it's about time the UK grew up, and got in line with most of mainland Europe on the issue of nude sunbathing.

78 Andy Blyth Chippenham Wiltshire Sep 18, 2008
Yes an enlarged naturist area is required. I've been there on a sunny day and not been able to find space to lie down.
However why do us naturist's have to be enclosed within steel and concrete? Is there not a possibility to have a naturist area out in the open as you would find in most of Europe?
It is the men's pond and I think a lot of people would prefer to lie out on the grass than on the concrete.

74 Nicolas Pittortou Highgate London Sep 17, 2008
The changing area to the right of the entry is very large yet only ever used for changing, whilst the naked sunbathing area is tiny in comparison and constantly full. An incredible amount of people end up waiting around because they can't get a spot or they just end up leaving (this has happened to myself & friends on MANY MANY occasions) The solution would be simple; just swap the use of the spaces around! Nico of Highgate.

66 John Thornton London Sep 15, 2008
Textile objectors to this proposal should remember they have the option of visiting Hampstead's mixed pool (and the remainder of London).

64 DrVyvyan Chatterjie New Cross London Sep 15, 2008
it would be against tradition and nature to take away this facility, dear and special to so many- both users and those to whom it is a point of considerable principle to know these rights exist and customs and freedoms are maintained.

I speak for myself and from m position as an Interfaith Minister.

Revd Dr V J Chatterjie, (MA Cantab, Phd Jabalpur, DipMBA Exeter, CFE CG. Jung Institut, British Army, retd.)

63 Mark Whiting Stockwell London Sep 15, 2008
Public nude areas should be asimple right in this day and age, our laws are so out of date

62 Jan Migdal Ilford London Sep 15, 2008
I think its appauling that public nudity is frowned upon in this country, and has to restricted to army style barracks. Why not let people sunbathe nude in the middle of the Heath? like in the parks in Berlin. Seeing as it is hard enough to get a small enclosed area enlarged, i doubt that the previous idea would ever be considered, so until then i back the petition to enlarge the nude bathing area in Hampstead heath.

60 Andrew Bodman Northampton Sep 13, 2008
I have been using Highgate Men's Pond nude sunbathing area for over 13 years even though it takes me more than one hour to reach it. On most occasions that I have visited, the floor area has been insufficient to meet demand. This proposed solution is likely to overcome the existing shortage of space. It is also likely to generate more revenue for The Corporation of London.

59 Bernard Boase Kingston upon Thames Surrey Sep 12, 2008
Much needed enhancement. Next, permit nude swimming.

57 Simon Clarke Thetford Norfolk Sep 12, 2008
Whenever i have visited Hampstead Ponds the nude sunbathing area has been full to absolute capacity and the clothed portion almost empty since most people who wish to sunbathe with swimwear prefer to sunbathe on the large grassed areas outside the ponds in natural surroundings rather than enclosed within the enclosure. I don’t believe i have ever seen anyone actually sunbathe within the clothed section of the enclosure, people have only ever used it as a changing area.

56 Dr Robert Gautier Barbican London Sep 11, 2008
The nude sunbathing area is a valuable resource but is often uncomfortably crowded. More space would be very welcome.

55 Malcolm Boura Bury St Edmunds Suffolk Sep 10, 2008
The area suggested is far too small. How about Hampstead Heath?

54 Bruno Bajo London Sep 10, 2008
In the seventies , it was even permited to swim naked in the men's pond. I thought that being naked in public wasn't an offence anyway. Let's ask for the FULL enclosure to be naturist friendly. Nobody else stay in that enclosure anyway except for changing!

48 Mark Newton Loughborough Leicestershire Sep 09, 2008
On previous visits to London, I have enjoyed swimming at the Ponds (if only one were also allowed to swim naked, but that's another matter lol), but the area for naturist sunbathing is so small that I didn't bother to use it; this might improve things...

45 Dave Newnham London Sep 08, 2008
I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE OPEN FKK SECTIONS IN GERMAN PARKS, AND WE HAVE A CONCRETE POCKET HANDKERCHIEF. I GO OFTEN TO THE MEADOW WHEN THE WEATHER IS GOOD AND THE GRASS IS LONG AND HAVE NO PROBLEMS FROM PASSERS BY

36 Chris Grady Great Finborough Suffolk Sep 06, 2008
I would hope, in time, regulations can be relaxed to allow mixed naturist areas in London as is comfortably accepted in other areas of Europe. In the meantime more space in Hampstead for men is a start.

34 David May Phoenix AZ USA Sep 05, 2008
It would only seem logical that you would partition said area according who uses it the most. If you have more men who use it for nude sunbathing, they should have more room.

32 Joseph Cavalieri New York USA Sep 05, 2008
I use this pond during trips to london and it is in great need of a cleanup and renovation.

30 Neil Morgan Brighton East Sussex Sep 05, 2008
Non sexual clothes freedom is a great liberater & knocks down social barriers

29 Alex Lane London Sep 04, 2008
Against the discrimination.

28 Malcolm Boura Bury St Edmunds Suffolk Sep 04, 2008
It is time that the prejudice against nudity is seen for what it is.

27 Rav Casley Gera London Sep 04, 2008
This is an extremely sensible suggestion that will immensely improve a popular facility! What's not to like?

24 William Helsen Antwerp Belgium Sep 04, 2008
Its time that are is more space for naked sunbathing, not only for men but for everybody. When I read this, it sounds like Belgium. Although we can only go to the beach in Bredene or to the Netherlands if we want to be nude.

22 Mike Grenville Forest Row East Sussex Sep 04, 2008
we should let go of being so afraid of being human

19 Michael Connolly Blaxland Australia Sep 03, 2008
I am a 41 yr old Naturist from Australia & I agree that provide no sexual activity is performed or intended, there should be more space allocated so that a true Naturist can relax as nature intended.

18 Jerry Hill Tottenham Hale London Sep 03, 2008
I agree - it was much better when the whole thing was nude.

14 GAEL SAUVAJON LONDON Sep 02, 2008
NATURISM IS TO BE IN HARMONY WITH NATURE. BEING PARKED AS ANIMALS IN A CONFINED SPACE IS FAR FROM BEING IN COMMUNION WITH NATURE.

9 Major John Wymark-Hoar MALTON North Yorkshire Sep 01, 2008
Sadly this an example of the sort of discriminatory practice levied against nmaturists by various public bodies, which if perpetrated against other minority groups would attract great criticism and protest. This must be remedied in the terms set out in this petition.

5 Daniel Fitzgerald London Aug 31, 2008
Please improve this space by next summer!

NEWS UPDATE 2ND JUNE 09: There will be National - Local Press and hopefully TV News coverage of the handover - to any supporters of my petition - if you are not camera shy - please BE THERE!!

NEWS UPDATE 1ST JUNE 09: GR8 NEWS! - The Corporation Of London have after nearly four weeks of discussion finally given me a date to hand in the Petition - to Michael Wellbank the recently appointed Chairman of Hampstead Heath Management Committee - Thursday 4th June 11am at Hampstead Heath Men's Pond - Highgate Ponds Millfield Lane London N6.

NEWS UPDATE 14TH May 09: Celebrities petition for naturism
Pink Paper - By Matt Aston 14th May 2009.

Gay celebrities are among more than a thousand campaigners who are calling for the “cramped” nudist section of Hampstead Heath to be extended.
Gay celebrities are among more than a thousand campaigners who are calling for the “cramped” nudist section of Hampstead Heath to be extended.

Comedians Julian Clary and Scott Capurro, along with human rights campaigner Peter Tatchell, have signed up to the campaign to increase the capacity of the dedicated space for naturists near the men’s pond on the heath.

Campaign co-ordinator Michael Peacock says that the “tiny” space is smaller than many private gardens in London and is the only gesture to naturism in the city.

“What I am seeking,” he said, “is a modest increase in the nude sunbathing area. Of course, I would love to go blue sky and have the enclosure opened out to the pond and the grassy bank outside.

“But I am a realist and have to accept that this is not Germany where most major parks have naturist areas. Our attitude in the UK towards naturism is completely at odds with the rest of the western world.

“So our objective is realistic but at minimal cost.”

The campaign petition, which will be presented to the Corporation of London later this month, has attracted backers from around the world.

Jim Vail from Canada said he signed up because “naturist facilities are a significant factor in my decision-making when it comes to choosing a tourism destination. I would be more inclined to visit often if the facilities were more attractive.”

Dr Jeremy McMullin from Edinburgh said he is a frequent user of the men’s pond. “I have been for 10 years now and I believe that naturism should receive more support from city authorities,” he added.

However it might not be too difficult for the authorities to solve the problem, suggested local sunbather Nicolas Pittortou from Highgate. He said: “The changing area to the right of the entry is very large yet only ever used for changing, whilst the naked sunbathing area is tiny in comparison and constantly full. The solution would be simple; just swap the use of the spaces around.”



NEWS UPDATE 9TH May 09: PETITION COMPLETED! 1061 signatures collected > 183 online + 878 hard copy.
GR8 Result - my thanks for all your support & many interesting comments which will be collated - it just goes to prove how this tiny facility is not just for Londoners but is used by visitors from all parts of the globe!
You are still welcome to sign however any signatures collected post 9th May 09 will not be included in the final total.
Now formal handover of the Petition is to be organized.

NEWS UPDATE 7TH May 09: MILESTONE REACHED TODAY 1006 signatures collected - WELL DONE!
Just three days to go then my petition closes - so please if you have not already done so - SIGN NOW!

NEWS UPDATE 27TH April 09: 935 signatures collected - that is combination of online with hard copy petition - this petition will be closed on 9th May exactly one year from the start - my target is to exceed 1000 signatures - so if you have not already done so - PLEASE SUPPORT & SIGN MY PETITION RIGHT NOW!

NEWS UPDATE 23RD April, 09: Keep up the support!
Recently Julian Clary - Scott Capurro have signed.
This petition will be delivered to the Corporation Of London in May - watch out for press & TV coverage!

NEWS UPDATE 18TH Dec: Thanks for recent surge of signatures! - and the comments are all welcome!
ALSO
I have started a discussion topic on my facebook profile:
support naturism in the uk' so I welcome some debate!

NEWS UPDATE 18TH Nov: MESSAGE OF SUPPORT SENT BY PETER TATCHELL AS FOLLOWS:

"I support the petition to extend the nude sunbathing area. It is
currently too small and overcrowded. If people want to sunbathe with
swimming trunks, they have the option of doing so on the grass lawn
outside the enclosure. This option is not available to those who
prefer to sunbathe au naturel. Giving over greater space to nude
sunbathing makes sense."

Peter Tatchell, human rights campaigner.

ALSO! - SPECIAL USER GROUP 'support naturism in the uk!' set up on Facebook - please check out - AND JOIN!

NEWS UPDATE 2ND Nov: TO MR ANONYMOUS! PLEASE IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO SIGN YOUR NAME - THEN DO NOT SIGN THIS PETITION! MR ANONYMOUS IS A WASTED VOTE - AND WILL BE REMOVED!
NEWS UPDATE 21ST Oct: 883 sigs
also created Facebook user group SUPPORT NATURISM IN THE UK!
NEWS UPDATE 29TH Sep: 875 sigs - keep signing & adding comments!
also the Camden New Journal published ( 18th Sep ) almost in full my 11 point response to Roberts opposition to the petition - his input was manna from heaven! as follows:

MY RESPONSE 12/09/08

Before responding to Robert's comments I wish to thank the Camden New Journal for highlighting my petition - the debate is welcome!
Sorry Robert I respect your opinion but must address some comments which are quite erronous as follows:
1) Since I started the petition in May there have been quite a number of theories on why the partition was put up - no doubt many are based on mythology including Robert's but the majority informed me about the barrister - of course if Robert has documentary evidence to back up his allegation then please post it here!
2) The comment about the clothed area on hot days being 'uncomfortably full' does not reflect reality! - my response is based on FACTS - on previous petition days I have noted the occupancy of the naked & clothed areas as follows:
DATE TIME NUDE CLOTHED
10/05/2008 13.40 34 8
05/06/2008 13.20 21 8
05/06/2008 14.00 29 18
09/06/2008 16.25 21 8
15/06/2008 14.15 11 3
15/06/2008 16.30 19 12
13/07/2008 12.45 23 7
22/07/2008 12.50 17 7
22/07/2008 14.40 29 9
24/07/2008 14.30 33 23
24/07/2008 16.30 37 18
26/07/2008 12.25 26 7
28/07/2008 12.30 26 20
28/07/2008 14.50 33 17
30/07/2008 13.00 26 6
So where is your evidence Robert?
3) 'Clothed & naked enclosures are about the same size' excuse me! I have taken detailed measurements of both areas and can confirm that the naked area is 97sq metres the clothed area is 170sq metres - and your response Robert?
4) 'Mr Peacock speaks selfishly for a clubbish, minority interest, not an open, majority one.'
I did not use the word 'clubbish' the reporter posed this as a question - how can my petition be regarded as speaking for a minority interest? - this is an absurd allegation.
5) 'The enclosure given to men for lying naked together beneath the sun now lacks capacity, so why not take all or part of the separate enclosure traditionally occupied by changing swimmers, shuttlecock players and non-naturist sunbathers in swimming togs and give it over to Mr Peacock’s sun-loving naturists?' - absolutely I could n't agree more! - HOWEVER I am a realist and although would welcome reverting the entire enclosure back to nude sunbathing, I wanted to consider those that did not wish to see naked men - what I have proposed is not 'blue sky' as many wish for but quite modest and ironically would achieve the objective that the barrister wanted - a COMPLETE seperation of the two areas.
6) 'but I do find lying naked on a towel on a hard concrete floor inside an all-male metal framed compound an odd definition of “naturism”. Where is the “nature?” - I agree with you yet again - when circulating the petition many have commented why can't the grassy bank outside the enclosure also be a naturist area? - well unfortunately this is not Germany where parks in most cities have naturist areas - so why are our attitudes to naturism so different ( & why should they be? ) in the UK? - & yes if my petition achieves its objective we will still be shielded away from prying eyes laying on hard concrete surrounded by metal - but I have to accept the realities of the British attitude towards naturism.
7) 'The steel and concrete construction was designed for changing swimmers, not naturists.' So was it a figment of my imagination that pre 1992 the entire enclosure was a nude sunbathing area?
8) 'Shuttlecock' a minority have not signed the petition for that very reason - so ok is it not conceivable that on this very tiny heath provision could not be made elsewhere for this pursuit? - I ask the question what is the primary function of the enclosure - is the clothed area to be retained purely on the basis of a game of shuttlecock that often causes much irritation to the nude sunbathers have to listen to tat de pong tat de pong? - a facility for shuttlecock in London is not unique - the naturist area is! - even if my petition is successful it will still be much smaller than many private gardens in the city.
'The competition for space on hot days, between changing swimmers and shuttlecock players is sometimes acrimonious.' - point taken Robert so lets solve the problem by locating a shuttlecock area somewhere else.
9) 'The truth is that it was requested by a large body of users who did not appreciate the sight of sexual acts in public' - so tell me Robert what evidence do you have to support this allegation? - was it one mass orgy of sex before the petition was put up?
10) 'I note that Mr Peacock urges people who have never been to or seen the Highgate Pond to sign his petition. He will no doubt get thousands of signatures' - to date ( 3rd Sep ) I have collected 640 signatures AT the mens pond - the online petition which I recently started has so far collected 57 signatures - if Robert bothers to check out the online version he will note from the comments that many ARE users of the facility - besides why should n't anyone that supports naturism support my petition?
11) 'But such protesters are without credibility.' Since when does a petition become a protest?


NEWS UPDATE 19TH Sep: check out 'nudist pond protest shows naked ambition' in www.pinkpaper.com page 8 - issue 961 - 18th Sep - shame its lifted word for word from the original Camden Gazette article.
748 sigs - the comments are brill - keep em coming - it all helps add to an INFORMED debate.

NEWS UPDATE 14TH Sep: 725 sigs - the comments added on the petition are much appreciated!

It is my intention to let this run for one year untill May 2009 - I am seeking a group of guys who are prepared to articulate a good argument - when the petition is presented - and to face the press - if anyone is interested please mail me naturism@yahoo.co.uk

Believe me there will be plenty of opposition - so I will need plenty of support.

Check out http://www.thecnj.co.uk/camden/2008/091108/forum091108.html
Very interesting forum article in the Camden New Journal 11 Sep - the response from Robert is not untypical of the opposition already expressed.


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NEWS UPDATE 11TH Sep:

CAMDEN NEW JOURNAL PUBLISHED 11 SEP 2008

Division at the Men’s Pond: is it an unnatural situation?

Calls for more nude sunbathing space on the Heath have divided opinion. Are naturists discriminated against? Or are their’s the demands of a clubbish minority interest?

IT is time that naturists in this country got more vocal. If you visit a park in Germany or in many cities in Europe, you will find a large naturist area where you will find men, women, and families sunbathing naked.
This should be a right for people who wish to get an all-over tan in the company of others.
But at the male nude sunbathing enclosure at Hampstead Heath Men’s Pond in north London, on hot sunny days the small enclosure is packed to bursting, preventing many from using the facility.
The poor ladies can only go topless.
This is the only gesture towards naturism in London – yet in the enclosure we are cooped up, shielded from the outside world, as a result of an attitude towards naturism that is dictated by traditionalists.
Next door, the area allocated to clothed changing – which is
42 per cent larger – is typically less than one third occupied.
Making inquiries about the partition that separates the two areas within the enclosure I learned that in the early 1990s a prominent barrister complained to the ‘authorities’ that neither his young son nor himself should be exposed to the spectacle of seeing any naked men.
At that time the enclosure was totally allocated to nude sunbathing.
Despite a survey that found that most people objected to this partition, up it went – and all it did was create a division.
Nudity is still on view – you cannot miss it as you walk to the changing rooms. But the space is limited to 30 guys at a pinch. This must change to reflect demand. So I appeal to anyone that supports naturism (you don’t have to be a user of the facility, or resident in the UK ), to sign my online petition.

* Michael Peacock is petitioning the City of London to expand the naked sunbathing area at Hampstead Heath Men’s Ponds. His online petition is at www.go petition.com/petitions/ male-nude-sunbathing-at-hampstead-heath-mens-pond.html


AGAINST: Robert Sutherland Smith
I HAVE read Mr Peacock’s views on the needs of naturists. On the face of it his cause, as I understand it, seems reasonable. To summarise: more “naturism” on Hampstead Heath or, more precisely, at the Highgate Pond.
The enclosure given to men for lying naked together beneath the sun now lacks capacity, so why not take all or part of the separate enclosure traditionally occupied by changing swimmers, shuttlecock players and non-naturist sunbathers in swimming togs and give it over to Mr Peacock’s sun-loving naturists?
As a cold water, winter pond swimmer, I may not be in the best position to criticise the eccentricities of others, but I do find lying naked on a towel on a hard concrete floor inside an all-male metal framed compound an odd definition of “naturism”. Where is the “nature?”
The steel and concrete construction was designed for changing swimmers, not naturists.
His campaigning also distorts facts.
The changing enclosure for swimmers is not 42 per cent larger than that used by the “naturists”. They are about the same size.
Nor is true that on hottest days the swimmers’ changing area is “typically less than one third occupied”. On the contrary, on the hottest days it is always uncomfortably full.
The competition for space on hot days, between changing swimmers and shuttlecock players is sometimes acrimonious.
Nor is it true that the barrier is the result of the protest of a single anonymous barrister on the basis of his prudery about naked men.
The truth is that it was requested by a large body of users who did not appreciate the sight of sexual acts in public; part of a colourful tradition which evidently not everyone enjoys.
I note that Mr Peacock urges people who have never been to or seen the Highgate Pond to sign his petition. He will no doubt get thousands of signatures, but such protesters are without credibility.
I have been told by a friend (who happens to be gay) that the reason the “naturist” compound is full on hot days, is because it is advertised as a place to visit in the worldwide gay press. No doubt a splendid example of globalisation!
But what about the rest of us; the mainstream Londoners who wish to swim? Or those retired old buffers who like to play a game of shuttlecock? Or the sunbathers who like to keep their trunks on when they sunbathe?
Mr Peacock speaks selfishly for a clubbish, minority interest, not an open, majority one. He and his plainly spurious petition should be given polite consideration but nothing more.

* Robert Sutherland Smith is Chairman, United Swimmers Association of Hampstead Heath


NEWS UPDATE 8TH Sep: 685 sigs
Brill interview filmed at the ponds - with gr8 humour! - featured on ITV1 London Tonight 6pm - Mon 8th.
To be interviewed live by LBC Radio 97.3fm at 7.35am ( ahh!! its against my religion to get up b4 10am ) on Tue 9th Sep.

NEWS UPDATE 5th Sep: 668 signatures - some of the online petition comments are brill & much appreciated - it also helps to widen the debate!
Go to facebook page michael pondlife ( pondlife is an affectionate term for the mens pond naturists! ) loads of pics & news items on there inc a wicked cartoon from the Ham & High.

NEWS UPDATE 4th Sep: I have made FRONT PAGE of the Camden Gazette - with photo of me naked apart from my petition! - to view ( until 9th Sep ) go to: http://www.camdengazette.co.uk/content/camden/chronicle/default/default.aspx

NEWS UPDATE 3rd Sep: Total no of signatures collected including hard copy sheet version 652 - sincere thanks to all that have signed so far - EVERY SIGNATURE COUNTS!

NEWS UPDATE 3rd Sep: Peter Tatchell the prominent LGBT human Right Campaigner signed the hard copy sheet version of my petition on 3rd September - THANK-YOU PETER FOR YOUR SUPPORT! - Peter was involved in a Direct Action Outrage protest held at the ponds in 1994 - web link: http://www.petertatchell.net/direct%20action/sexual%20apartheid.htm

As a regular user of the male nude sunbathing in the enclosure at Hampstead Heath Men’s Pond in North London, I have observed that on hot sunny days the small enclosure is be packed to bursting, preventing many from using the facility – however the area allocated to clothed changing area which is 42% more in area, is typically less than 1/3 occupied.

Making enquiries about the partition that separates the two areas within the enclosure I was informed by a number of sources that in the early 1990's a prominent barrister complained to the 'authorities' that neither his young son or himself should be exposed to the spectacle of seeing any naked men - at that time the enclosure was totally allocated to nude sunbathing and access to the male toilets was and still is via the enclosure.

The authorities took this complaint very seriously and commissioned a survey asking the question: "do you support having a separate area within the enclosure allocated to nude sunbathing?" - my understanding is that of the 850 responses - 600 said NO - despite the survey findings the partition was put up.

In my opinion the partition was ill conceived - and the most crucial point of all, did not achieve what the barrister was seeking - as you enter the enclosure and look to your left the 'spectacle' of naked men is still apparent – ironically my petition if adopted will achieve his objective!

This tiny area is smaller than many private gardens in the city and is the only location in London allocated to male nude sunbathing - now its time to redress the balance between providing an area for nude sunbathing that reflects CURRENT and POTENTIAL demand for this facility.

So I appeal to anyone that supports naturism ( you don’t have to be a user of the facility, or resident in the UK ), to sign my online petition to be presented to the Corporation of London.